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Interviews
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HOW IT WAS WORKING
WITH DEE WALLACE STONE
Interview by Marco De Luca
with Roger Steinmann, writer/director
MDL:
How did it come that Ms. Stone was cast as the lead. I mean,
after all, she isn’t the most famous star in the world?
RS: No, but a terrific one. Now, it’s hard to think
for me to have found anybody better fitted for this demanding
role. In the second and third act, she is in every scene.
IN EVERY. This not only means a time-consuming, but foremost
an energy-consuming issue. And Dee was very much in touch
with Patricia.
MDL:
Have you known Ms. Stone’s work before?
RS: Well, who on this planet doesn’t know “E.T.”?
After all, just behind “Titanic”, it’s the
most grossing film of all time. And there she plays the lead,
means the first name within the cast list. But I remember
her as well from a ‘summer’-movie, or better,
THE summer movie of 1981: “10”, by Blake Edwards.
I saw this movie together with some friends as a teenager.
We all fell for Bo Derek, the ‘chick’ of the season.
And I remember beautiful young Dee in a strong supporting
role. – And this makes me, as a filmmaker, link to some
great and successful fellow-directors like Blake Edwards and
Steven Spielberg. By the way: Another actress of our cast
played under Spielbergs direction: Lilyan Chauvin in “Catch
Me, If You Can”.
MDL:
Apropos ‘Spielberg’: Ms. Stone mentioned something
about Spielberg’s direction…
RS: Yes, and this is a flattering one: Dee said, that my direction
is much more subtle than the one of great Spielberg! He only
gave very rudimentary advice, but has rather concentrated
on technique, such as camera issues. For him, the actors were
just a necessary tool to fulfil his dream of a story telling.
Well, maybe, in the meantime, he has changed his style a bit.
Let me ask Lilyan, how he directed her in last years “Catch
Me…”.
MDL:
How did Ms. Stone approach her role?
RS: With absolute sincerity. She always was well prepared,
well in time, very professional. For a Mid-European a dream
to work with. She was as upset as I when other people didn’t
come up with their professionalism. – But there was
one issue: She didn’t like a lot of rehearsals. Just
the necessary steps, sure, but everything beyond, she stalled.
She wanted to keep her best moments for the very first take.
Mostly, she then delivered it just perfect. The only crux
was, that her leading men, Tim Bottoms and Mickey Rooney,
liked a lot of rehearsing. They became better and better,
their performance came into true shape. Whereas Dee got exhausted
after numerous of takes, and certainly not any better. Facing
this later in the editing room, there is a hell of an issue
to be solved.
MDL:
Ms. Stone is an acting teacher.
RS: Yes, she has numerous very devoted students. Once, I attended
her class, I think, to look at some young actors to play Alan
[her son in PARADISE]. There was a great feeling, how all
the students were grateful about Dee’s input. She rather
acts like a mom, than a teacher.
MDL:
How was Ms. Stone’s approach towards the script?
RS: Well, her role IS the script, so to say. She was very
much behind it, cared for it as she would have had written
it herself. She came up with a lot of changes. But only dialogue
changes, where she thought that Patricia wouldn’t express
herself like this or that. This, her contribution, was very
helpful and I really want to thank her for this.
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HOW IT WAS WORKING
WITH TIMOTHY BOTTOMS
Interview by Marco De Luca
with Roger Steinmann, writer/director
MDL:
How did you get to Mr. Bottoms?
RS: Well, I have to admit, rather through a coincidence. I
mean, I knew him and his body of work, but he wasn’t
considered first – which was a just a waste of time,
since he’s a fine actor and he proofed it in playing
five roles in our film with tremendous skill. – When
we had our first shooting of PARADISE, we had Edward Albert
(“Butterflies Are Free”) in the Timmy part. The
concept with Edward was, to get him the first time to play
with his legendary father Eddie Albert (best know for “Roman
Holiday”), who of course was as well playing his father
in our film. As we had to abandon that production due to the
death of Ray Walston, but got into the second time around
almost two years later, the Edward-family made it kinda difficult
to work with. Might be, that Eddie was getting too old. Anyhow,
the Alberts didn’t show up at meetings. We were on an
urgent basis to replace these two actors. We got word that
Timothy Bottoms would be interested for the role(s). I called
him immediately, and we had a meeting in his lovely home in
Santa Barbara the next Sunday. A true professional, he already
red through the script and was performing his concept of how
to play the parts. It came very close to what I had envisioned,
and the he was cast at once.
MDL:
Unfortunately, Mr. Bottoms isn’t the big star of the
seventies anymore…
RS: Yes, and we all were aware of it, foremost Timmy himself.
But look, what he did just in the last month. Following his
several President Bush incarnations (“That’s My
Bush!” as well as upcoming films), he played the lead
in this years Palm D’Or of Cannes, in Gus Van Sant’s
“Elephant”. The Golden Palm comes just next to
an Oscar! And this film is with our Timmy, I think even in
the lead. I guess, God is watching him, and returns him the
big success of the seventies. Don’t forget, that he
was one of the biggest young stars during this period. I’d
say, he just had bad luck, but never lost his incredible talent.
MDL:
Mr. Bottoms believed in the screenplay of PARADISE?
RS: Very much so. He always mentioned that if one film will
mark his ‘comeback’, than it will be PARADISE.
And - who on Earth is able to showcase his talents in playing
five parts?
MDL: How did Mr. Bottoms
prepare for these five different roles?
RS: Well, with a professional such
as Timmy there isn’t much to see how he does his preparation,
as he does it before he comes to the set, when learning his
lines. Timmy is a quiet person between takes – just
the opposite as, for instance, Mickey Rooney. Timmy likes
concentration. Sometimes he seeks distractions from it and
then he becomes the entertainer again. – I recall a
shooting day, starting as scheduled, with Timmy as Henry as
a young father. Then, we needed, not scheduled, one shoot
of the older Henry, when he has a beard. Then, in the afternoon,
we were shooting the scene in the park, where he is the father
of little Patricia, eventually dying of a heart attack. And
in the evening, Timmy was Douglas, as we had to complete the
scene where he finds Patricia in the old shack. So Timmy jumped
from one role into the next, from one costume and make up
into the next, without any hesitation. I guess, he even liked
this challenge a lot. Timmy is the perfect actor when it comes
to a demanding part!
MDL: But, the first minute
of meeting the real Mr. Bottoms…
RS: …I didn’t believe
in him that much, yes. He was VERY quiet, was unshaven, He
just did gardening work when I pulled up my car, and was accordingly
not the means of a movie star. But, as soon you push the bottom
of Mr. Bottoms, he is on, and can give you whatever you need.
And he’s an directors actor, will trust you fully, and
on the other hand is kinda lost without strong guidance. He,
as I recall my idol Billy Wilder saying, is like a Jack Lemmon:
You have to pull him back since he always wants to give you
too much. But in an ideal collaboration, such as we had, Timmy
is giving the performances one wants to watch.
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HOW IT WAS WORKING
WITH BARBARA CARRERA
Interview by Marco De Luca
with Roger Steinmann, writer/director
MDL:
How did you get to Ms. Carrera?
RS: For the role of the diabolic
Katherine Hiller, we were looking at several actresses with
a sexy Spiderwoman-appeal in order to get a strong counterpoint
[early on in Act I] to the sweet innocence of Patricia Paradise.
Without a doubt, Barbara Carrera owns these exotic attributes.
We were lucky that she accepted this rather small role. Because
at our very first meeting, it turned out that she had a strong
passion for the role of Patricia. She fell in love with the
script, and felt strong about being the one and only Patricia
for this film. She gave her conception of how she would play
it and made a big plea to alter our casting idea. Indeed,
it would have been an interesting switch to see a dark haired
angel opposite to a blond devil maybe in the person of Dee
Wallace Stone. We didn’t go with Barbara’s conception,
and I’ve to admit, we’ve rather typecast these
two roles. But eventually, Barbara fulfilled her small part
very well.
MDL: This certainly is
visible in the ‘catfight’ scene, the last confrontation
between Patricia and Katherine.
RS: Sure, and Barbara, as well as
Dee [as Patricia], gave her best. Barbara knew that this is
her key scene, where she really is able to show what she is
up to. [In this scene, Katherine is drugged. She slips that
she’s got an affair with Patricia’s husband. The
scandal is, that Francis is as well her half-brother.]
MDL: Ms. Carrera is a
former top-model. Was she delicate to work with?
RS: No, the contrary was the case!
Despite her unique beauty, she is the one to ‘steal
horses with’, as there is a say in German. She is a
real pal. I remember a scene [which is cut from the final
version] which we shoot at 2 AM. Everybody was tired after
14 hours of work. The scene demanded that Barbara’s
character is being shot by the Mafia and she subsequently
falls to the floor. She wears a splendid evening dress. Despite
all the former, she fell down to the hard floor. And we needed
to repeat this scene numerous times, as everybody was tired
and there were some mistakes. Barbara did this painful scene
without a glimpse. She is a real pro!
MDL:
You got a confirmation about Ms. Carrera power by a “Star
Wars”-director…
RS: Oh, yes, Irvin Kershner. Apart of “The Empire Strikes
Back” he did the James Bond film “Never Say Never
Again”, directing Barbara. Through her I befriended
him. He just had the same good experience with her, and her
part as ‘Fatima Blush’ is the one she always is
best remembered for. And there, she had to perform some quite
physical obstacles, as it’s an action film. –
Irvin is quite an outstanding person, very cultivated. No
wonder, are Barbara and he best pals. And Irvin looked over
the script and gave me quite good notes, as Billy Wilder did.
Both of them I thank at PARADISE’ end crawl.
MDL:
Ms. Carrera is the Ambassador of Nicaragua. How is she as
a person?
RS: One tends to think that she is superficial. Well, she
isn’t like that at all, folks! Barbara is very philosophical,
and takes her post as Ambassador very serious. She is well
educated, speaks several languages [she was even living in
Germany], and has lately become a rewarded painter. She showed
me some astonishing paintings of stars she knew personally
and she worked with: Bette Davis, Burt Lancaster, William
Holden, and others.
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HOW IT WAS WORKING
WITH MICKEY ROONEY
Interview by Marco De Luca
with Roger Steinmann, writer/director
MDL:
How was it working with Hollywood-legend Mickey Rooney?
RS: Easier than I thought at first. Mickey (or ‘Mick’,
as he allowed to call him), is a director’s actor. After
all what I heard about him, driving directors crazy with being
moody and ad-libing all the time, I couldn’t experience
a lot of these difficulties. With PARADISE, he was in a perfect
mood. And what I especially appreciate with him: Mick was
offering different options of how to play a scene. This makes
him a complete treasure.
MDL:
But Mr. Rooney is well known for ad-libing.
RS: OK, he tried. But then one is able to proof to be a director
and charm and whisper and convince, what ever it needs, that
the scene and film will be what it needs to be. And after
all, it was me who wrote the script.
MDL:
Mr. Rooney plays a dual-role. Did he like the story and script?
RS: Apparently, otherwise he wouldn’t obviously have
accepted the role(s). You might remember: We had some difficulties
to cast this one part. These older actors have a crux: some
are too old and therefore retired, others doesn’t need
our quite small money, then again others aren’t easy
to locate, being maybe even without an agent, and the remaining
intact rest is kinda busy. – So with Mr. Rooney, we
were extremely happy to get him. After all, he was to play
a dual role, sometimes from scene to scene alternating his
character. As well physically, he had to change make-up and
costumes. But Mick is very fit, very energetic. Everybody
knowing him, will confirm this very unusual power within this
short body.
MDL:
In one scene, Mr. Rooney sings and plays the guitar. How did
it come to this? Was it a previously composed song?
RS: No, not at all. Knowing that Mick is a full blood entertainer,
I simply asked him over the phone at our very first conversation,
if he could think of anything for this romantic family-scene.
At once, Mick was singing into the phone an immediately created
song. Created at once! I only had to direct him into a little
bit less sounding western tunes, and after a few minutes,
we had our song “Family”, the one which is in
the film now. That’s why Mick deserves all the credit
for it.
MDL: At the first shooting
day, Mr. Rooney shocked you to death…
RS: Yes, he did, by exclaiming that
he haven’t learned his lines. He said that he’s
just glanced over the script. Insisting that he better get
into his trailer and to get to learn them, he laughed “Son,
I did 300 films [including tv-films] in my life. Don’t
you worry!”. I tried to remain calm. We were going ahead
to the first scene [when Simon meets Patricia as a little
girl], and Mick knew EVERYTHING! He even altered the dialogue
to the better. I asked him. “Son, just before the scene
is about to be shot , I’m going very concentrated over
the lines, and then I know them.” Well, that’s
called extreme powerful short-memory, because after some hours,
he wouldn’t be able to remember these lines again. ”And
Son, you’ve written the most complicated script I’ve
ever seen in my life!” He laughed again. Well, what
he meant was, that I’m including always all kind of
details for camera, costumes, set-dressing, etc. They were
in italic, so I’m asking the actors to disregard them.
Well, Mick was paying attention to everything, professional
as he is.
MDL: How was Mr. Rooney
between the takes?
RS: Very much as described in Arthur
Marx’ Rooney-biography. Mick is a big mouth. When he’s
in the mood, he talks to everybody, being it the producer
or a set dressing assistant. Well, that’s rare as most
actors and surely stars not only show their power in being
selective, but as well tend to be introvert when they are
off work. Not so Mick: As described in the biography, especially
by his numerous wives, he always is “on-stage”.
He loves the public. And he loves to tell tales when one is
eagerly listening. I recall telling him, that my two beloved
Rooney- movies (well, of the ones I’ve seen) are “Breakfast
At Tiffanys” and “It’s a Mad, Mad, Mad World”.
He exclaimed immediately “Both of them are bullshit!”
Irritated, I asked him why. Of the first: “This Chinese
character I had to play is totally off. I did a favour to
my friend Blake Edwards. They didn’t find anybody else
or anybody famous being such exotic.” And about the
latter film: “Within the premise lays a big error. The
USD 350,000.00 is by far too low an amount to make a these
guys chasing and killing each other. It should have been ten
or hundred times of it to make it work!” [“Mad
World” tells how a group of ordinary individuals get
into a greedy craziness when they get to know a dying gangster’s
hiding place of his loot.]
And having asked him about how it was working with Marilyn
Monroe, he confirmed that she had her first walk-on [appearance]
in one of his movies, and even more, that he has created her
stage-name from Norma Jean Baker to the immortal ‘MM’.
Wow, Mick!
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